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as well. we will see, shep. >> shepard: republicans are aware george w. bush did it this too. >> he actually did it far more than president obama. who has only used this kind of recess appointment less than 30 times in 40 years. george w. bush used it 141 times over the course of two terms 8 years. that's why jay carney said that this is going to be overturned eventually whether it's by the supreme court. take a listen. >> we respectfully but strongly disagree with this decision. it counters 150 years of precedent. there are over 280 recess appointments made in -- during intrasession recess appointments by democratic and republican administrations alike. >> carney also noting this was just one court that was ruling on one case in washington state. a suit that had been brought against the nlrb. that's why tonight at the white house they are not sweating too much. they believe that they can win at the supreme court and they think in the end this is going to be pushed out, shep. ed henry out in the yard. thank you. penn state university could soon settle several civil claims in the chi
of them will not be here today. george w. bush, and george h.w. bush. the 88-year-old just got home from the hospital because of bronchitis and infection. and his son, george w., said he wanted to be with his father. but his dad said, when you leave the stage, stay off the stage. that's liberating. >> president carter, in september, set the record for the longest retirement in presidential history. it had been held by hubert hoover. now, jimmy carter's been ex-president for 32 years. and what he has done with that, as well. you see the crowds crossing pennsylvania avenue. everyone gathering. the president will be coming to the capitol, starting around 10:40. >> we are told, people are given much clearer directions this year about where they go, when they can cross. that security has asked that apps are guiding everybody. people were stuck in a tunnel four years ago, and couldn't get to their destination. >> 2 million people came to the mall. under 1 million this time around. you see the crowd right there. the president and the first lady are inside the white house right now. earlier this
there on inauguration day. george w bush as well. somewhat of a tradition that started back many, many years ago. after that they will proceed back here to the white house. scheduled to be a tea with the joint congressional committee. after that, they will head to the capitol. the first lady along with the president and families will be going up to the capitol. they will be seated right before the swearing in ceremony which is expected to happen before noon. tom will be covering that for us up there. that's the latest here so far. check back in with you in a little bit. >> great shot, sarah. looks good. thank you very much . >> thousands of people have began lining both sides of pennsylvania avenue. they are ready to watch the president walk from the capitol back to the white house. >> coming up, i don't know if he's going to walk but we'll find out later on. >> with all of you. >> still ahead, we're going to talk to lauren. she is live at freedom plaza. right now 7:12. fox 5 morning news , the presidential edition of fox 5 morning news will return.  >>> sky fox giving
george w. bush mitt romney's healthcare provider. on and on. so when i say, and yet for all of these things that he has done, he has copied all of these big ideas from republicans. again, going all the way back and then to nixon and yet their response is, he is just a fascist, a socialist. really? what were nixon and reagan and george w. bush for god's sake? they completely shunned their own. they ignored their own history >> bill: they don't recognize their own ideas. right? when they are staring them in the face. >> i think most people can recognize the republican party of today is not the republican party of 20, 30 years ago. most people who look at this independently can see that. but i think the bigger question is: is there ever going to be anything that's a wake-up call for them? what would the wake-up call be that they say, okay. we really need to change here? >> i think the wake-up call if you delve into these poll numbers from these election night numbers we were just talking about this, you know, off there, they lost the hispanic vo
with george w. bush or condoleezza rice, or colin powell would have gone nearly, remotely same zip code as soft as "60 minutes" tid. the new republic had more of an excuse. flagship liberal publication but funny the editor of the new republic, chris hughes, dot-com millionaire. donor that used for obama and says in the letter to readers in same issue with the interview, he says how they will have no partisan bias. they are not going to push a party line, not going to be biased toward a group or party. yet, this thing was basically dictation from the president of the united states. >> bret: mara? >> i think that, you know, chris hughes has to prove that. right out of the gate he did an interview with the president and he is a big donor and employee. it seemed weird. full of conflict. the steve croft interview was interesting when you hear him asking the question, why did you want to do this? almost like a bubble over his head why did i agree to do this? it was kind of tough piece exit interview pat on the head for hillary. he played along from what we can tell. >> bret: exit interviews a
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party over the past four years since george w. bush left town is roger els. he's run the party, he's run the conservative movement. when roger els decides she's not worth the trouble, then that means that conservatism's moving in a new direction. i talked about what happened this weekend at "the national review" institute's talk. i was really surprised. really surprised by what i heard. and heartened, whether it was bill kristol or john hatoritz. also scott walker who is doing really well up in wisconsin. and all the republicans got up there, and they were saying the same thing. we've got to stop being the stupid party. we've been saying here for six months, we have got to -- and john, i thought, had one of the best points, that we have stifled debate. the conservative movement has stifled debate. and if you go out and you dare to stand out in a crowd, whether it's on taxes or regulations or in the past on immigration, you were completely shunned from the party. finally there's an understanding we've got to grow the party. what we've been saying for quite frankly for years and getting at
two living presidents george h.w. bush who was just released from the hospital and is who is now recovering, and george w. bush who sends his regrets. >> so as it happens because of the illness of the elder mr. bush, there will be only democratic presidents in attendance today. very, very unusual circumstance. the headline of the hour, the news broke moments ago by bob schieffer is that the republican leadership at this moment is in the white house having coffee with the president. perhaps a hopeful sign that agreements might come with the new year. >>> here's what's coming up the rest of this inauguration day. at 10:40, the president and mrs. obama leave the white house for the capital. the inaugural ceremonies begin at 11:30 and include the ceremonial swearing-in of vice president biden. then at 11:55, president obama will be sworn in by chief justice john roberts. and at noon, the president will deliver his inaugural address. that will be followed by lunch at the capital. then around 2:30, the president leads a procession back to the white house where he and the first lady wil
but no one will dispute the fact that george w. bush was aiming for the bleachers with his second inaugural with what he called his freedom speech which is -- in terms of projecting american force, moral and military around the world in the wake of 9/11 and the doctrine of preemptive military action. >> you knows the reference to lincoln, we talk about being in a divided america now. in many ways we are politically. but you think about lincoln and that inauguration, both of his, it was a different level. >> different level all together. he is involved in the conflict where half a million people would be killed, the end of channeled slavery. a lot is at stake. we're fighting now but not anywhere like that, thank god. >> we're about to see the introduction of the first lady of the united states, michelle obama. as you watched her grow in this role the last four years, what do you think? >> well she has done -- she is a, the most popular person in america just about. she has firmed up the sense of this family as a very responsible family that people can relate to, which was not always going to
, sir. >> thank you. >> critics of the court's decision point to the fact that president george w. bush made 141 recess appointments under the same circumstances that the court said were unconstitutional in this case, the court recognizing that republican and democrat presidents have used this said it wasn't persuaded by that, but rather by the text of the constitution itself. now that the pentagon has lifted the ban on women in combat, oppons argue we could have problems with cohesion and combat readiness. it was a hot topic on the sunday morning shows. steve centanni has more. >> reporter: some say women are not strong enough for combat roles. others say they have proven themselves time and time again. it's official, women will be able to serve alongside men, opening up doors to advancement, along the military chain of command. outgoing defense secretary leon panetta signed that order last week. but many insist, this is a basic question of physical ability. >> i think the evidence is clear that combat effectiveness when women have put in those kine of demanding roles, they begin to br
factions that this has to happen this year. >> george w. bush tried to have this conversation. right wing folks within my party said this is not somethingt that we are interested in having. the politics have changed and the temperature has lowered where we have to have a bipartisan conversation. >> losing elections will do that to you. >> especially when you lose the expanded vote something else struck me unusual. he said, quote, the hispanic vote should be ours for a variety of reasons. what are the reasons? >> we should work for every vote. i think what he is trying to say is from a traditional value standpoint and a faith based standpoint, traditional values republican party pretty much lines up with the hispanic culture in terms of gay marriage, in terms of prayer in school and so forth. >> is that how you heard that? >> basically what he was trying to say is as long as we keep hispanics and those folks who care about immigration reform they will be with us on these social issues. here is the reality. the reality is when you look at the bread and butter issues that hispanic families,
citizens. >> repter: >> reporter: president george w. bush was outspoken in his support from the beginning. i think we have clear presidential support here, and what we have in our state, our conversation last night with the president, he cheered us on. >> it's important to keep in mind that for this plan to become law, it would have to pass the republican-controlled house of representatives. speaker boehner will allow it to come up with a vote. we want to talk about this. joining us from maryland, the democratic state senator of montgomery county and corey stewart, republican chairman of the prince william county bord of supervisors. chairman stewart, i want to start with you. you have been a longtime voice on the immigration debate, saying mainly that local and state governments have carried the bulk of issues. how do you see this today? is the federal government stepping up in your view? >> the federal government has no credibility with regard to immigration reform and enforcement. why would we believe that washington is going to enforce new immigration law if it's not enforcing the cur
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all of our presidents were there, including george h.w. bush and george w. bush and i can tell you firsthand that there were several boos in the audience not just for george w. bush, and h.w. bush, but for barbara bush and lawyer a bush. i don't know if we are at less of a divide. president obama will set the tone today. that may be a foreshadowing of things to come as he goes into his second term and they remain at loggerheads. joining us throughout the day brit hume and chris wallace are with us here on the set. let me ask you about that. it was an unfortunate event, the because, i can tell you i heard them and they were loud and it was an unfortunate moment. are we in less of a partisan moment now. >> i don't think so. it goes to one of two pieces of clearly unfish eurbd business frounfinished business, to sue night the count kraoe which has not occurred. we are more divided than before. and get the economy on a surround recovery to get out of a recession that we've had. the pieces of business hangover the president. he has proven that you can get reelected in a weak economy, wh
party and of cuban descent. he will be influential. john mccain campaigned against george w. bush in 2000, a long time advocate of immigration reform is big advocate of this. democrats almost every case on this bipartisan committee as well as in the senate are expected to follow the president's lead whatever he outlines tomorrow many they're on board with that agenda. the big question and stumbling block has been for decades is border security. how do you define it, how do you support it? this includes the use of drones, technology, all kinds of electronic surveillance and et cetera, critics say there is not enough. you need a fence and more troops on the border. how that gets legislated and sorted out we her from the president and house republicans will be influence in the outcome. house republicans want to be very much a part of passing this legislation this time. jamie: i would love to see our troops continue to work down there. that would be so helpful. carl, thanks. jon: for more on the immigration reform plan let's bring if karl rove, former chief visor and deputy chief of s
presidents choosing that this is now coming home to roost. republicans gave his power to george h. w. bush and george w. bush, democrats gave the power to jimmy carter and bill clinton, barack obama has exercised this power in ways that has frustrated everybody. republicans didn't want to see federal taxpayer dollars going to these companies. it is lawful. is it constitutional? it is not authorized anywhere. tracy: we have to talk about the keystone pipeline. the governor says you know what, he can traverse my state. judge napolitano: this is very frustrating to the state department and the strong environmentalist that support the president because this is basically saying to the president we have the largest single piece to our state who not only have no objection to it, we want it. we are ready, they're here to collect rents to have this stuff built in their backyard, let's go, mr. president. now he has to find another excuse to block it and this is greater pressure on him to decide the orthodox of the environmentalist unless people in texas and canada exchange a pipeline. tracy: judge a
presence put together by jim baker and george h. w. bush and the success in the engagement of it. but subsequent to that, we have seen a completely different scene. that is what i would describe as three alarmers and two alarmers. we about a dozen fires popping up here in different parts of the world within all of a sudden you have people who don't have the -- a lot of people in congress who don't have the previous reference have basically come to the conclusion that the world has changed and we can't afford nor do we have the public support for global open gaugement. -- engagement. when you talk to people back home and you say why do we give so much foreign aid? it is literally like saying, you know, you need to diet and lose a lot of weight and you get a haircut and solve the problem. the amount of foreign aid and presence now is shrinking to the point where it's relatively insignificant compared to it. but yet the will to support that going forward and even step out and say well we ought to be more engaged here or do more here or these are the functions that are working. it's
on to that office. and one of the things that helped to elect george h.w. bush at the end of reagan was reagan went out on a high. he had some trouble in the second term but he went out on a high. and that really helped bush. i think that's important for biden that president obama succeed. >> i just missed this one but the last vice president before george h.w. bush was martin van buren. >> biden has constantly been in and out of the dog house for say things he wasn't supposed to say for the longest time. right now, he is in, as gloria was saying, just the perfect sweet spot for him, because he has succeeded. the challenge is, i'm trying to emphasize about this speech, we don't know what the president wants to done in his second ter. such a litany of agent that items. you know, less is more. there was too much "more" in this speech and that i think is the trap for him now, for biden. >> i think it was a bold list the president puts out. the question is was the priority, what does he go to first? in the sweetest spot for the parade, wolf blitzer. >> we're waiting for the president and the first lady
with us. >> thank you. >> former president george w. bush and his father, former president george h.w. bush, aren't attending this inaugural. president -- former president bill clinton and jimmy carter are. we are waiting to see president clinton. stand by for that. also taking a closer look at the downside of winning another four years of the white house. it doesn't always go so well. the second-term curse, as some call it. that's coming up as well. first, though, inaugural flashback. >> let me assert my firm belief that the only thing we have to fear is fear itself. >> we all remember the phrase the only thing we have to fear is fear itself. but even more important than the phrase was the whole attitude that fdr had. he projected optimism and projected forward movement. people felt that's the mystery of leadership, that somehow the depression they were suffering, they weren't going to be alone anymore. they had a leader who was going to take care of it. when you have diabetes... your doctor will say get smart about your weight. that's why there's glucerna hunger smart shakes. they h
tennet, in the george w. bush days. that is why john brennan didn't get the nomination to run the cia in the first time around. so his confirmation hearings this time around, february 7th, should be very interested. there is controversy there. the other nomination, where there used to be suspense, is former republican senator chuck hagel, i say there used to be suspense, because there were questions about whether there would be fight from the left have dried up. chris coombs, all have met with mr. hagel this week, he assuaged their worries, ditto, charles schumer, of new york, he addressed criticism of his hard-line anti-gay and anti-abortion political past. he addressed that criticism, where they largely neutralized it. ahead of his confirmation hearings on thursday, republicans are making noises about chuck hagel. the only strange remaining might be evidence of any interesting and therefore important resistance to chuck hagel is probably this ad, you might have seen from an unknown group called "use your mandate." >> chuck hagel, he has been nominated to be secretary of defense. and
washington, thomas jefferson, abraham lincoln and teddy roosevelt and george w. bush. >> that's what i'm saying. >> i think george w. bush. maybe fdr. >> stature, yeah. >> two roosevelts is confusing. >> maybe. i have to think about it and announce it tomorrow. we will be at the nationals games and spring training coming up very, very soon. thanks very much for that. >> sure. >> a prominent republican not mincing words saying his party needs to stop being stupid. they are meeting in north carolina. what they can do to rebound and remake their brand. would you take it? well, there is. [ male announcer ] it's called ocuvite. a vitamin totally dedicated to your eyes, from the eye care experts at bausch + lomb. as you age, eyes can lose vital nutrients. ocuvite helps replenish key eye nutrients. ocuvite has a unique formula not found in your multivitamin to help protect your eye health. now that's a pill worth taking. [ male announcer ] ocuvite. help protect your eye health. [ male announcer ] when we built the cadillac ats from the ground up to be the world's best sport sedan... ♪ ...pe
. george w. bush got 62 million votes in the 2004 election and conservatives said he had a mandate. barack obama got 62 million votes in the two -- 2012 election, and conservatives started a secessionist movement. but the obama campaign took it to them and made a difference in the end. they helped create a new electorate, a coalition of concerned and they turned it out on election day. our two political parties are separate and not equal. the percentage of republicans who are white has remained fairly steady since 2000 at about 87%. the percentage of democrats who are white in contrast has dropped from 64% in 2000 to 55% now. independents have gone from 79% to 67% white since 2000. the depth of republican dependence on white voters explains a lot about the recent election. not least about its outcome. republican efforts to suppress minority voters back fired big time. [applause] in florida alone, 266,000 more hispanics voted than in 2008. similarly in ohio, 209,000 more blacks voted than in 2008. overall, while romney received 59% of the white vote, all hot -- obama -- omaha? obama got 93%
assistant to president george w. bush and martin frost is a former texas congressman. thank you both for joining us. >> thank you, thank you. good to be here. >> the current senate makeup. let's take a look at the numbers. 55 democrats, 45 republicans currently. in 2014, 33 seats will be up for re-election. don't go the way of general elections. congressman frost what do you think is going to happen? >> well, first of all, this is a subject i know a fair amount about. i was chairman of the democratic congressional campaign committee in 1998, the last time you had the so-called six year itch when the president's party is supposed to lose seats in the sixth year of the president's term. we actually picked up five seats in the house and we broke even in the senate. but what is happening here is that the republican party actually had this same opportunity in 2010 and 2012 and they nominated candidates that were too far to the right and lost some races they shouldn't have lost that happened in missouri and in indiana and in this last election it happened in delaware and colorado and nevad
lazear, hoover institute fellow and former chief economic advisor to president george w. bush has some ideas on what washington needs to do before the new debt deadline is upon us. ed, thank you for joining us. so what -- >> pleasure, thank you. ashley: what should congress do before that debt ceiling again comes upon us and what's the likelihood they will do it? >> well i'm not so sure they should be focusing on the short run at all. they should think in terms of what are things they need to do to grow the economy. if you look at the history of economic growth since the economy got out of the recession, formally got out of the recession back in june of 2009, we've had growth of about 2%. the long-term growth rate in this country is about 3%. so, a recovery usually means that you're growing at rates that are better than the average, in order to catch up. we're not even growing at rates near the average. ashley: right. >> what congress and the president need to do is focus primarily on things that would get the growth rates up. i would putnam per one on the list, focusing on the tax cod
he talked about bill clinton, he did not mention george w. bush who was the most fiscally irresponsible president in history until president obama came along. thank you, gentlemen. mo and former hillary clinton spokesman and former bush adviser, dylan glenn. cheryl: long term health insurance and whether you should buy it. assumptions about the cost are likely wrong. dennis: maybe it was not those new batteries that forced regulators to ground the dreamliner. we'll tell you what may have been the cause in "west coast minute." first, a look at ten-year treasuries. ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] this is karen anjeremiah. they don't know it yet, but they' gonna fall in love, get married, have a couple of kids, [ children laughing ] move to the country, and live a long, happy life together where they almost never fight about money. [ dog barks ] because right after they get married, they'll find some retirement people who are paid on salary, not commission. they'll get straightforward guidance and be able to focus on other things, like each other, which isn't rocket science. it's
that's one of the key things that this party has to do. you do it quickly. george w. bush always did it when he was president. somebody comes out and says something stupid like the congressman from georgia, paul brown, a couple days ago said barack obama, he didn't follow the u.s. constitution. he followed the soviet constitution. it doesn't cost republican leaders anything to speak out and say, that is a stupid and offensive remark. it offends swing voters. let's talk about issues that are going to balance the budget, save medicare and get americans back to work. we've got to speak out against the stupidities. bobby says we've got to stop being the stupid party, and you start by disciplining your most stupid members. >> joe, that's right. bobby jindal said last night that the party needs to stop insulting the intelligence of the american people. joe, he's going to use his platform as chairman of the republican governors association, also as one of the most obvious of the 2016 candidates to make these points. he said government needs to be much smaller. he said that we need about hal
at george w. bush's second inn inaugur inaugural. he will be speaking this morning. his theme, unity and bridging divisions in the country. so, the president and his family, enter st. john's episcopal church. we will have them when they come out of the service, in about an hour. >>> for right now, let's go up to sam in new york with the weather. >> texas over there. okay. oh, hi. how are you guys? i couldn't hear a thing. we're outside in times square. we got great things going on here, as well. we might not be as crowded as the washington mall. but let me tell you, we're just as happy folks. let's get to the boards. one or two things going on this morning we want to show you. we'll start with the pictures. why torture us, ft. lauderdale? why do that? you're sending us pictures just to rub it in. there's baltimore this morning. elsewhere, here's what happens with the low. now that we have the cold air and it starts to drop, if you think it's cold in times square right now, wait until tomorrow morning. how many will be here tomorrow, as well? you will? where are you from? >> i'm from
away. katty, i criticized george w. bush for eight years for massive reckless spending. he allowed the federal debt to go up 6 trillion dollars during two terms. barack obama allowed it to go up six trillion dollars over one term m. that just continues moving forward. we can't afford this anymore. >> right. you can't afford the european model, which has imposed massive austerity and kill growth when the country is still-the-you have a long term problem of deficit and long term problem of the country of growing inequality i think is something the president was trying to address, not good -- >> none of that matters if we don't take care of long term debt. i'm not talking about slashing an burning short term budgets. we don't need to balance the budget now, we need to take care of long term debt. >> if your party is serious about that, they have to develop a credible voice on it. i don't disagree with you. that balance in the conversation is needed. >>> coming up here the dubliner -- any conservatives here? he's wearing a bow tie. he must be a conservative. up next, reverend al sharpt
immigration reform. president bush didn't do that, president george w. bush did not accomplish that. that could be it. and then the supreme court dealing with the gay marriage issue. the courts could handle that, and that may be taken out of the president's hands. >> and big on climate change, as well. >> and a lot of symbolism, especially the inauguration happening on mlk day. but you were in the crowd. what exactly did you see, what are some of the sights and sounds? >> reporter: you know, paula, i was fortunate enough to be only about 75 to 100 yards away, which is a lot closer than a lot of people got. and the crowd was very excited and very respectful. there were a lot of young people. the biggest cheers came when he mentioned gay marriage. the young people surrounding me just erupted in cheers and so you could tell that that is going to be a big issue, that he could take on the next four years. he got the biggest support from that from this crowd. >> that comment was extremely telling. he put it in the same line as the women's voting rights and with the civil rights act, in te
, when president george w. bush was in office. that didn't last long. go back to president ronald reag reagan, republicans talking about the reagan revolution. from eight years of reagan, four years of bush, eight years of clinton, eight years of bush, that reagan's vision, if you will, sort of dominated the conversation. here's what speaker boehner has to understand. look on the state level, republican governors and state legislatures. you have republicans who control more state branches than they actually do democrats, and so this is just typical political whining as will said, both sides want to be in control. it's no doubt because you want to govern a lot easier, if your party controls all levels of political office. >> carol can we talk about what inspired boehner's statement? and that is that president obama's speech was openly progressive, not just on its face on its policy goals like you pointed out in climate change or gun control but in its philosophy as well. >> and? >> the elevation of collectiveism, of collective right, collective action. this is the cycle of american poli
appointments. ronald reagan made more than 200. george w bush made more than 100. at issue in this instance is the senate technically in recess when they are in a pro forma session. pro forma means that senators aren't really here. they're not getting any work done. but they are gaveling into session every few days. the obama administration has argued that means that the senate is in recess. this court ruled otherwise and disagreed with the obama administration. republicans are praising this ruling. today they are saying it was the right ruling and that president obama really engaged in overreach when he made those appointments. so to your second question, t.j., what happens now, at this point in time the justice department not weighing in on what it will do next. but if you talk to legal analysts, they believe that the administration will take this to the supreme court. so that's what we're watching for now waiting to go hear what the justice department has to say about this. >> we also have a question of what this means for richard cordray appointed during this time, a recess appointment
of the electorate. obviously john mccain has talked about this since seven. george w. bush was very involved in this. jeb bush is speaking very strongly in favor of this type of citizenship. the trouble they are likely to run into is in the house of representatives, right. >> reporter: one would think so. the problem with this bill for the critics in the house is that it is, call it what you will, whatever name you use it's an amnesty bill in the sense that people who came here illegally and who are here now will be able to attain a provisional legal status. that won't make them citizens, that will be a much more come ph*ebg complex, they get to come out of the shadows and be here legally and work here legal leave. a lot of people will say that is amnesty. amnesty is a word that fires up people who were really reoccupied and concerned about this issue. this is one of these issues where intensity matters. you look at that big number, 66% in favor of a path for citizenship for these people. how many people are really passionate about it? it's hard to know. a great many of those who will oppose it are
me now the former deputy assistant to george w. bush and julie, an assistant to frank lautenberg, what a powerful voice. >> powerful, reasoned, common sense approach from a man who has everything to be bitter about. i'm a victim of gun violence almost kidnapped when i was 18, a shootout at the house, the two guys who perpetrated the crime against me and my mom didn't have legal guns. and my position on gun control is the same as mr. mattioli, he has a harder cross to bear, he lost his son james, i'm here, but a cautioned reasoned common sense approach to gun control is where america should be. we have enough laws, he's right. we don't have the enforcement that we need and also he spoke to mental health. the people who perpetrate these crimes are mentally ill in most cases and criminal, and need help before they act out. >> megyn: nothing else, it should add to the debate. so many in favor of gun control have been somewhat dismissive of the other side and their motives, you know, even the president has suggested that those who gin up fears about this are after ratings or revenue.
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